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		<title>By: Dharmesh Shah</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2006/09/25/is-crm-a-culture-or-a-software/comment-page-1/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Dharmesh Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the challenge of most existing CRM systems (particularly from a small business perspective) is that they are really designed to count/track customers.

In today&#039;s world, customers want to manage their relationship with the small business (and not be managed).  

Most of the CRM tools today (including the ones you&#039;ve listed) are based on the same old concepts (keeping a database of customers and interactions with them).  None of them really help foster the customer relationship and let the customer dictate how they want to do business with you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the challenge of most existing CRM systems (particularly from a small business perspective) is that they are really designed to count/track customers.</p>
<p>In today&#8217;s world, customers want to manage their relationship with the small business (and not be managed).  </p>
<p>Most of the CRM tools today (including the ones you&#8217;ve listed) are based on the same old concepts (keeping a database of customers and interactions with them).  None of them really help foster the customer relationship and let the customer dictate how they want to do business with you.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jantsch</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2006/09/25/is-crm-a-culture-or-a-software/comment-page-1/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jantsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dharmesh,

I agree - so, tell us more - how does one foster customer relationships and let the customer dictate (not sure about that word) how they want to do business with you.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dharmesh,</p>
<p>I agree &#8211; so, tell us more &#8211; how does one foster customer relationships and let the customer dictate (not sure about that word) how they want to do business with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Speer</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2006/09/25/is-crm-a-culture-or-a-software/comment-page-1/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Speer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I helped implement SugarCRM in a previous job. It&#039;s a free, open source tool that is pretty easy to modify. I liked it so much that I&#039;m using SugarCRM for my personal entrepreneurial adventures. The manual is pretty good too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I helped implement SugarCRM in a previous job. It&#8217;s a free, open source tool that is pretty easy to modify. I liked it so much that I&#8217;m using SugarCRM for my personal entrepreneurial adventures. The manual is pretty good too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dharmesh Shah</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2006/09/25/is-crm-a-culture-or-a-software/comment-page-1/#comment-872</link>
		<dc:creator>Dharmesh Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

There was some talk about creating &quot;CMR&quot; systems (Customer Managed Relationships) vs. CRM.

Some quick thoughts on this:

1.  Customers should more easily have access to the information they need about your offering.  This includes being able to talk to other customers.  This can be done via blogs (written by more than the CEO or marketing person), forums, etc.  Customers shouldn&#039;t have to talk to sales people as their primary vehicle for learning about the offering.  

2.  Most CRM systems today are designed for salespeople (not the customer).  In fact, it is still unclear to me how a CRM system (like Salesforce.com) actually helps manage the relationship.  The way I have seen it used is a database to track customers and generate reports for the VP of sales.

So, as a customer, here is what I would want want from a CMR system:

1.  The ability to learn what I need to about the company and offering at my own pace.

2.  The ability to ask questions and &quot;engage&quot; various types of people (not just the sales people).  This would include employees, customers, etc.  One simple way to do this is via blog comments.

3.  I want the ability to &quot;stay connected&quot; with the company in ways that are convenient for me.  This could be a newsletter, blog, etc.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>There was some talk about creating &#8220;CMR&#8221; systems (Customer Managed Relationships) vs. CRM.</p>
<p>Some quick thoughts on this:</p>
<p>1.  Customers should more easily have access to the information they need about your offering.  This includes being able to talk to other customers.  This can be done via blogs (written by more than the CEO or marketing person), forums, etc.  Customers shouldn&#8217;t have to talk to sales people as their primary vehicle for learning about the offering.  </p>
<p>2.  Most CRM systems today are designed for salespeople (not the customer).  In fact, it is still unclear to me how a CRM system (like Salesforce.com) actually helps manage the relationship.  The way I have seen it used is a database to track customers and generate reports for the VP of sales.</p>
<p>So, as a customer, here is what I would want want from a CMR system:</p>
<p>1.  The ability to learn what I need to about the company and offering at my own pace.</p>
<p>2.  The ability to ask questions and &#8220;engage&#8221; various types of people (not just the sales people).  This would include employees, customers, etc.  One simple way to do this is via blog comments.</p>
<p>3.  I want the ability to &#8220;stay connected&#8221; with the company in ways that are convenient for me.  This could be a newsletter, blog, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jantsch</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2006/09/25/is-crm-a-culture-or-a-software/comment-page-1/#comment-873</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jantsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dharmesh,

Great comments - I guess that goes a little back to my original thought. Only a very customer focused organization and culture could pull of the CMR you talk about. Although I bet there are examples of companies doing it now, even if they don&#039;t call it such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dharmesh,</p>
<p>Great comments &#8211; I guess that goes a little back to my original thought. Only a very customer focused organization and culture could pull of the CMR you talk about. Although I bet there are examples of companies doing it now, even if they don&#8217;t call it such.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Valle</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2006/09/25/is-crm-a-culture-or-a-software/comment-page-1/#comment-875</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Valle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Great post.  I think it&#039;s all too common for business owners to throw software (and money) at a problem without getting at the real root cause.  I&#039;ve learned this lesson the hard way several times.

Step one in any software manual should read:

&quot;Look yourself in the mirror and figure out why you purchased this software in the first place.  Fix that problem first.  Then come back and learn how to use our system.&quot;

Incidentally, I use Zoho CRM and am quite happy with it.  But as you&#039;ve stated so well, that&#039;s really not the main point.

Tony

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Great post.  I think it&#8217;s all too common for business owners to throw software (and money) at a problem without getting at the real root cause.  I&#8217;ve learned this lesson the hard way several times.</p>
<p>Step one in any software manual should read:</p>
<p>&#8220;Look yourself in the mirror and figure out why you purchased this software in the first place.  Fix that problem first.  Then come back and learn how to use our system.&#8221;</p>
<p>Incidentally, I use Zoho CRM and am quite happy with it.  But as you&#8217;ve stated so well, that&#8217;s really not the main point.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Levin</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2006/09/25/is-crm-a-culture-or-a-software/comment-page-1/#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To try to answer the question, I have had 2 CRM experiences that I can refer to.  1) Running a company with 40 tele-salespeople.  We purchased ACT and PCs for everyone (this was 5 years ago) and had my IT person implement and &quot;train&quot; the sales staff.  We wrote off the $30K investment in 1 week.  

2) My existing company... I purchased a CRM system when it was just me selling (we now have 4 users on the system).  I bought the system from a reseller because I knew the reseller could help me create a sales system around the CRM program.  In other words, we took our &quot;loose&quot; culture and system and modified/improved it around the CRM system.

So I think the bottom line is, if implemented properly, CRM can help you develop a system (and culture) and stick with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To try to answer the question, I have had 2 CRM experiences that I can refer to.  1) Running a company with 40 tele-salespeople.  We purchased ACT and PCs for everyone (this was 5 years ago) and had my IT person implement and &#8220;train&#8221; the sales staff.  We wrote off the $30K investment in 1 week.  </p>
<p>2) My existing company&#8230; I purchased a CRM system when it was just me selling (we now have 4 users on the system).  I bought the system from a reseller because I knew the reseller could help me create a sales system around the CRM program.  In other words, we took our &#8220;loose&#8221; culture and system and modified/improved it around the CRM system.</p>
<p>So I think the bottom line is, if implemented properly, CRM can help you develop a system (and culture) and stick with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Philippe Mesritz</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2006/09/25/is-crm-a-culture-or-a-software/comment-page-1/#comment-877</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippe Mesritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to suggest TMS as a CRM as well, although this is a bit more tailored to those companies that do telemarketing and mid-level sales efforts.  The system is a lot more powerful in terms of process management and tracking than most of the other CRMs out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to suggest TMS as a CRM as well, although this is a bit more tailored to those companies that do telemarketing and mid-level sales efforts.  The system is a lot more powerful in terms of process management and tracking than most of the other CRMs out there.</p>
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