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		<title>By: paulb</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2007/01/23/lets-talk-about-linkedin/#comment-399871</link>
		<dc:creator>paulb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience with linkedin has been absolutely atrocious. It seemed like a great idea at the beginning. I&#039;ve entered all my information and contacts. Eventually I forgot about the profile as it didn&#039;t seem to help me in any way. Later on I realized that I&#039;ve entered some personal information and decided to delete it. However that proved to be a bit more difficult than I&#039;ve anticipated. Profile deletion only took a few emails to the customer support. However my name with some information is still displayed in the linkedin&#039;s directory and is cached by all the major search engines. After three months of battling linkedin I feel like I&#039;m running out of options. Any ideas on how I can remove the information. Right now I&#039;m contemplating legal action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with linkedin has been absolutely atrocious. It seemed like a great idea at the beginning. I&#8217;ve entered all my information and contacts. Eventually I forgot about the profile as it didn&#8217;t seem to help me in any way. Later on I realized that I&#8217;ve entered some personal information and decided to delete it. However that proved to be a bit more difficult than I&#8217;ve anticipated. Profile deletion only took a few emails to the customer support. However my name with some information is still displayed in the linkedin&#8217;s directory and is cached by all the major search engines. After three months of battling linkedin I feel like I&#8217;m running out of options. Any ideas on how I can remove the information. Right now I&#8217;m contemplating legal action.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne H</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2007/01/23/lets-talk-about-linkedin/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Below is another slant on LinkedIn from Jeremy Shoemaker.

I think his post emphasizes that with all services, there are good users and bad users. It seems he encountered enough bad users to post about the experience.

I&#039;m still not familiar with all the LinkedIn features, but I wonder if there isn&#039;t a mechanism to provide feedback when these type of scenarios occur. I didn&#039;t see that option, but this may be my ignorance.

http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/02/02/linkedin-you-had-me-then-you-lost-me/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Below is another slant on LinkedIn from Jeremy Shoemaker.</p>
<p>I think his post emphasizes that with all services, there are good users and bad users. It seems he encountered enough bad users to post about the experience.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not familiar with all the LinkedIn features, but I wonder if there isn&#8217;t a mechanism to provide feedback when these type of scenarios occur. I didn&#8217;t see that option, but this may be my ignorance.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/02/02/linkedin-you-had-me-then-you-lost-me/" rel="nofollow">http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/02/02/linkedin-you-had-me-then-you-lost-me/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anne H</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2007/01/23/lets-talk-about-linkedin/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a follow up post to my earlier one on support. The email I sent to support on January 17th was responded to on Feb 1.

The tragedy is the info the support rep took the easy way out and didn&#039;t fully address my questions.

The info looked like it had been copied and pasted from a series of questions. There was no greeting or reason as to why it took 2 weeks to answer.

I hope the company will use the latest round of funding to build up support as it looks to me like a serious weak link in an otherwise good concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a follow up post to my earlier one on support. The email I sent to support on January 17th was responded to on Feb 1.</p>
<p>The tragedy is the info the support rep took the easy way out and didn&#8217;t fully address my questions.</p>
<p>The info looked like it had been copied and pasted from a series of questions. There was no greeting or reason as to why it took 2 weeks to answer.</p>
<p>I hope the company will use the latest round of funding to build up support as it looks to me like a serious weak link in an otherwise good concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2007/01/23/lets-talk-about-linkedin/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are basically two types of LinkedIn users who can get value from it. The first is the active user, who makes a habit of searching and reaching out to people on a regular basis (for whatever it is they&#039;re looking for), participating in the Answers section by posting questions and answers, etc. Then there&#039;s the passive user who accepts introduction requests, forwards them for their connections, and only occasionally actually does a search in response to a specific need.

Both can derive value from LinkedIn. The former probably needs one of the premium accounts. The latter makes up 90-something percent of the network, and that can be accomplished with a free membership.

LinkedIn is one of the rare social networking applications I have seen that suits both types fairly well. I believe, in fact, that is precisely why it has attracted 10 million users -- because those of us who work 80 hours a week already and can only spend a couple of hours a week &quot;networking&quot; can still derive some value from it and be of service to our contacts without an implicit or explicit expectation of more participation.

But either type of user has to build their network in order to achieve that value. And I don&#039;t mean &quot;build&quot; in the sense of inviting strangers to connect -- I mean make an ongoing habit of identifying your connections within the system. Remember, 400,000 people a month are joining. It&#039;s ridiculous to think that all of your &quot;real&quot; contacts were members when you joined however many months ago, or to put the burden on them to find and invite you.  At least monthly, you should be doing an update process to make sure you are maximizing your connectedness in the network.

Once you&#039;ve done that, how you use it to help your business depends entirely on what your needs are. I wish I could say more on this here, but there is SO much to say in that regard. For now, I just refer you to the Using LinkedIn category (http://linkedintelligence.com/category/using-linkedin) on my blog for ongoing postings about ideas in that regard. Watch for more upcoming (podcast with John next week).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are basically two types of LinkedIn users who can get value from it. The first is the active user, who makes a habit of searching and reaching out to people on a regular basis (for whatever it is they&#8217;re looking for), participating in the Answers section by posting questions and answers, etc. Then there&#8217;s the passive user who accepts introduction requests, forwards them for their connections, and only occasionally actually does a search in response to a specific need.</p>
<p>Both can derive value from LinkedIn. The former probably needs one of the premium accounts. The latter makes up 90-something percent of the network, and that can be accomplished with a free membership.</p>
<p>LinkedIn is one of the rare social networking applications I have seen that suits both types fairly well. I believe, in fact, that is precisely why it has attracted 10 million users &#8212; because those of us who work 80 hours a week already and can only spend a couple of hours a week &#8220;networking&#8221; can still derive some value from it and be of service to our contacts without an implicit or explicit expectation of more participation.</p>
<p>But either type of user has to build their network in order to achieve that value. And I don&#8217;t mean &#8220;build&#8221; in the sense of inviting strangers to connect &#8212; I mean make an ongoing habit of identifying your connections within the system. Remember, 400,000 people a month are joining. It&#8217;s ridiculous to think that all of your &#8220;real&#8221; contacts were members when you joined however many months ago, or to put the burden on them to find and invite you.  At least monthly, you should be doing an update process to make sure you are maximizing your connectedness in the network.</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve done that, how you use it to help your business depends entirely on what your needs are. I wish I could say more on this here, but there is SO much to say in that regard. For now, I just refer you to the Using LinkedIn category (<a href="http://linkedintelligence.com/category/using-linkedin" rel="nofollow">http://linkedintelligence.com/category/using-linkedin</a>) on my blog for ongoing postings about ideas in that regard. Watch for more upcoming (podcast with John next week).</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2007/01/23/lets-talk-about-linkedin/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Anne&#039;s point is extremely well-taken. On the one hand, I think LinkedIn does a better job of most of doing some in-context help. On the other hand, that&#039;s very small-task-oriented, and using LinkedIn effectively is really a strategic thing.

I co-developed a course and offered it under their brand, promoted on their site, etc., a couple of years ago, and the response was good. But it was a pilot and for a whole variety of reasons, we never launched it full-scale. LinkedIn&#039;s position, which I understand, is that they want to have many people out there training on LinkedIn, writing books about LinkedIn, etc., rather than trying to manage all that in-house, or effectively giving a monopoly to one service provider.

Again, I understand that from their standpoint, but who really ends up suffering in the process is the new user.

There are PLENTY of resources, though, for those who choose to seek it out, which is why it always sort of amazes me when bloggers say they just don&#039;t get LinkedIn -- they obviously haven&#039;t really explored it or discussed it with people who know what they&#039;re doing with it.

There are several blogs that talk either extensively or exclusively about LinkedIn, and dozens of LinkedIn-related Yahoo Groups. The help is there for those who seek it -- it&#039;s just not as neatly packaged as it could be (yet!!!), and it&#039;s not being promoted to new LinkedIn users -- they have to seek it out.

I predict a lot of that to change in the next 6-12 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Anne&#8217;s point is extremely well-taken. On the one hand, I think LinkedIn does a better job of most of doing some in-context help. On the other hand, that&#8217;s very small-task-oriented, and using LinkedIn effectively is really a strategic thing.</p>
<p>I co-developed a course and offered it under their brand, promoted on their site, etc., a couple of years ago, and the response was good. But it was a pilot and for a whole variety of reasons, we never launched it full-scale. LinkedIn&#8217;s position, which I understand, is that they want to have many people out there training on LinkedIn, writing books about LinkedIn, etc., rather than trying to manage all that in-house, or effectively giving a monopoly to one service provider.</p>
<p>Again, I understand that from their standpoint, but who really ends up suffering in the process is the new user.</p>
<p>There are PLENTY of resources, though, for those who choose to seek it out, which is why it always sort of amazes me when bloggers say they just don&#8217;t get LinkedIn &#8212; they obviously haven&#8217;t really explored it or discussed it with people who know what they&#8217;re doing with it.</p>
<p>There are several blogs that talk either extensively or exclusively about LinkedIn, and dozens of LinkedIn-related Yahoo Groups. The help is there for those who seek it &#8212; it&#8217;s just not as neatly packaged as it could be (yet!!!), and it&#8217;s not being promoted to new LinkedIn users &#8212; they have to seek it out.</p>
<p>I predict a lot of that to change in the next 6-12 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Lambert</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2007/01/23/lets-talk-about-linkedin/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would use the old saying, &quot;You get out what you put in.&quot;  I would&#039;ve agreed with some of the negative comments made a couple of months ago when I was waiting for others to initiate contact with me.  Now that I&#039;ve turned my approach around and initiated contact with potential buisiness partners, I&#039;m experiencing better results.  

I also wouldn&#039;t ignore those who have few contacts.  It may be that the person is selective in who he/she will recommend, not that the person is less valuable than those with 500+ contacts.

Oh, and LinkedIn is good for seeing what kind of competition you&#039;re up against out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would use the old saying, &#8220;You get out what you put in.&#8221;  I would&#8217;ve agreed with some of the negative comments made a couple of months ago when I was waiting for others to initiate contact with me.  Now that I&#8217;ve turned my approach around and initiated contact with potential buisiness partners, I&#8217;m experiencing better results.  </p>
<p>I also wouldn&#8217;t ignore those who have few contacts.  It may be that the person is selective in who he/she will recommend, not that the person is less valuable than those with 500+ contacts.</p>
<p>Oh, and LinkedIn is good for seeing what kind of competition you&#8217;re up against out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Hoffmann</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2007/01/23/lets-talk-about-linkedin/#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a student looking for my first job out of college, I joined LinkedIn because it focuses on networking and building business contacts.  I agree with Chris in that it maintains a high credibility level.  In my experience so far, I have not received anyone trying to establish a connection or recommendation from me without personally knowing him/her.  Also, there are no sections for your weekend photos or your favorite movies; it is about your education, experience and contacts.  While I do not have a success story to share with you yet John, perhaps in a few months I will be able to tell you about LinkedIn&#039;s positive effect on my career search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a student looking for my first job out of college, I joined LinkedIn because it focuses on networking and building business contacts.  I agree with Chris in that it maintains a high credibility level.  In my experience so far, I have not received anyone trying to establish a connection or recommendation from me without personally knowing him/her.  Also, there are no sections for your weekend photos or your favorite movies; it is about your education, experience and contacts.  While I do not have a success story to share with you yet John, perhaps in a few months I will be able to tell you about LinkedIn&#8217;s positive effect on my career search.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jantsch</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2007/01/23/lets-talk-about-linkedin/#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jantsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

What has that meant to you or your business so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>What has that meant to you or your business so far.</p>
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