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	<title>Comments on: Those idiots in sales just don&#8217;t get it</title>
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		<title>By: Easy SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2008/03/25/those-idiots-in-sales-just-dont-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-398018</link>
		<dc:creator>Easy SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI John 

I really enjoy your writing style.

If a company did not market would the sales person still be able to sell. Marketing is the presentation of a product or service, the strategy that is involved in how a company expresses itself to the customers. 

Who should listen to who as they are different types of people who both think that there way is the right way. A sales persons purpose is to sell and they will sell there concept to the marketing department whom also sells their concepts and would prefer not to be told how to do there job.

Wow, this is something to think about. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI John </p>
<p>I really enjoy your writing style.</p>
<p>If a company did not market would the sales person still be able to sell. Marketing is the presentation of a product or service, the strategy that is involved in how a company expresses itself to the customers. </p>
<p>Who should listen to who as they are different types of people who both think that there way is the right way. A sales persons purpose is to sell and they will sell there concept to the marketing department whom also sells their concepts and would prefer not to be told how to do there job.</p>
<p>Wow, this is something to think about. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Alliance Science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alliance Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 06:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What Must a Salesperson do to Close the Gap between Marketing and Sales? ...&lt;/strong&gt;

What&#039;s the difference between Marketing and Sales? Marketing consultant, Laura Lake, defines marketing as everything that you do to reach and persuade prospects and sales as everything that you do to close the sale and get a signed agreement or...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What Must a Salesperson do to Close the Gap between Marketing and Sales? &#8230;</strong></p>
<p>What&#8217;s the difference between Marketing and Sales? Marketing consultant, Laura Lake, defines marketing as everything that you do to reach and persuade prospects and sales as everything that you do to close the sale and get a signed agreement or&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvester Ingeme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvester Ingeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found that, so often, sales people intent on accomplishing sales goals end up working against themselves. If you have decided to be a professional sales person and not a part-time short term seller of goods and services, you need to develop relationships. Your first sales objective is to sell yourself. Think for a moment about your own decisions to purchase goods and services. To what extent do feelings of trust, comfort, and positive personal feelings effect your decision?

When representing a financial services organization, I had to face the fact that all my competitors had the same or similar products, all with features and benefits. After going out day after day to â€œslay the dragonâ€, I came back empty handed and discouraged. Sharing my dismay with an older mentor, he asked me an important question. He said, â€œwith all things being equal, how do you decide to send your money on something ?â€.

A simple question but one that prompted an immediate reply, â€œ Of courseâ€, I said. â€œunder those circumstances I do business with someone I know, trust, and likeâ€.

The answer was so obvious that it had escaped me. In order to develop a long term sales career, I need to focus on knowing my client and then selling myself first. Well it sounds simple but it is astounding how many sales people, in the heat of battle and the pressures created management, forget that they are in a marathon not a sprint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found that, so often, sales people intent on accomplishing sales goals end up working against themselves. If you have decided to be a professional sales person and not a part-time short term seller of goods and services, you need to develop relationships. Your first sales objective is to sell yourself. Think for a moment about your own decisions to purchase goods and services. To what extent do feelings of trust, comfort, and positive personal feelings effect your decision?</p>
<p>When representing a financial services organization, I had to face the fact that all my competitors had the same or similar products, all with features and benefits. After going out day after day to â€œslay the dragonâ€, I came back empty handed and discouraged. Sharing my dismay with an older mentor, he asked me an important question. He said, â€œwith all things being equal, how do you decide to send your money on something ?â€.</p>
<p>A simple question but one that prompted an immediate reply, â€œ Of courseâ€, I said. â€œunder those circumstances I do business with someone I know, trust, and likeâ€.</p>
<p>The answer was so obvious that it had escaped me. In order to develop a long term sales career, I need to focus on knowing my client and then selling myself first. Well it sounds simple but it is astounding how many sales people, in the heat of battle and the pressures created management, forget that they are in a marathon not a sprint.</p>
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		<title>By: John-Scott Dixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>John-Scott Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this dialog fascinating! I ran marketing for a Fortune 500 company for many years, and certainly lived through a number of struggles with Sales. 

The line between these two rivals continues to blur. In my opinion, this is driven by the increasing domination of the Web over how customers interact with a brand. As Semantic Marketing technologies emerge, websites are now simultaneously performing both marketing and sales functions. 

Our technology, Semanticator, allows brands to welcome key market segments immediately upon arrival. So, just like a good sales person, websites enabled with our technology can listen before making suggestions. And, like a good marketer, they can position properly based not only on the market segment, but in light of the competition in the visitor&#039;s selection set, the visitor&#039;s gender, location, search keywords, etc.

So, we&#039;re going to have to create Sales-Oriented Marketing people or Marketing-Oriented Sales people. Take your pick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this dialog fascinating! I ran marketing for a Fortune 500 company for many years, and certainly lived through a number of struggles with Sales. </p>
<p>The line between these two rivals continues to blur. In my opinion, this is driven by the increasing domination of the Web over how customers interact with a brand. As Semantic Marketing technologies emerge, websites are now simultaneously performing both marketing and sales functions. </p>
<p>Our technology, Semanticator, allows brands to welcome key market segments immediately upon arrival. So, just like a good sales person, websites enabled with our technology can listen before making suggestions. And, like a good marketer, they can position properly based not only on the market segment, but in light of the competition in the visitor&#8217;s selection set, the visitor&#8217;s gender, location, search keywords, etc.</p>
<p>So, we&#8217;re going to have to create Sales-Oriented Marketing people or Marketing-Oriented Sales people. Take your pick!</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Underwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale Underwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should change the title of your workshop to &quot;How to get Sales and Marketing on the same WEBpage&quot;.  Marketing has done a terrific job of exploiting the simplicity of information dispersal via the web by supplying sales rich content.

I remember the good old days...mailing brochures; now we just tell the customer to &quot;get it from the web&quot;.

I remember face to face presentations; now replaced by webinars (and/or whitepapers).

I remember having to provide customer references; now replaced by case studies.

What is left for the 2 month sales veteran to disburse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should change the title of your workshop to &#8220;How to get Sales and Marketing on the same WEBpage&#8221;.  Marketing has done a terrific job of exploiting the simplicity of information dispersal via the web by supplying sales rich content.</p>
<p>I remember the good old days&#8230;mailing brochures; now we just tell the customer to &#8220;get it from the web&#8221;.</p>
<p>I remember face to face presentations; now replaced by webinars (and/or whitepapers).</p>
<p>I remember having to provide customer references; now replaced by case studies.</p>
<p>What is left for the 2 month sales veteran to disburse?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob&#039;s &quot;define marketing&quot; question is key.  Definitions range from &quot;Little Marketing&quot; to &quot;Big Marketing.&quot;  Little Marketing is the task list of to do items associated with Sales (advertising, sales collateral,and a long list of other sales support functions.)  Big Marketing is an integral part of business strategy that can&#039;t be separated from the Executive Office.  While I don&#039;t know John&#039;s view, his Duct Tape Marketing book advocates a Big Marketing definition - any company that follows his approach will perform a strategic audit of the entire company as part of the Marketing plan design. I think that is what he means when he says that every business is a marketing business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob&#8217;s &#8220;define marketing&#8221; question is key.  Definitions range from &#8220;Little Marketing&#8221; to &#8220;Big Marketing.&#8221;  Little Marketing is the task list of to do items associated with Sales (advertising, sales collateral,and a long list of other sales support functions.)  Big Marketing is an integral part of business strategy that can&#8217;t be separated from the Executive Office.  While I don&#8217;t know John&#8217;s view, his Duct Tape Marketing book advocates a Big Marketing definition &#8211; any company that follows his approach will perform a strategic audit of the entire company as part of the Marketing plan design. I think that is what he means when he says that every business is a marketing business.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

I think it would be an interesting experiment if you asked all of your readers to define marketing.  I find that the plethora of definitions out there hints that maybe we don&#039;t really know what marketing is (or more accurately, what marketing has become).  How do you see social media fitting in to the overall marketing strategy?

Jacob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>I think it would be an interesting experiment if you asked all of your readers to define marketing.  I find that the plethora of definitions out there hints that maybe we don&#8217;t really know what marketing is (or more accurately, what marketing has become).  How do you see social media fitting in to the overall marketing strategy?</p>
<p>Jacob</p>
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		<title>By: Jodi Kaplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jodi Kaplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I always figured that depending on the business, marketing generated the leads, and sales generated the orders.  Of course, I&#039;m in direct marketing, so I can have both!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I always figured that depending on the business, marketing generated the leads, and sales generated the orders.  Of course, I&#8217;m in direct marketing, so I can have both!</p>
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