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	<title>Comments on: Maybe CRM is a lousy term</title>
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		<title>By: John Ainsworth</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2008/03/31/maybe-crm-is-a-lousy-term/comment-page-1/#comment-398447</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ainsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is definitely something I&#039;m keen to find out more about. I&#039;m looking into Infusion Soft at the moment. I&#039;ve heard both very positive and less positive reviews so far and am looking forward to making my own mind up about it for my company.

I think Mark is right when he says that you have to figure out what you need from a system, and then look at what system best fits your needs. 

Thanks to all those who&#039;ve made suggestions of other options on here. I&#039;m looking forward to comparing these all with Infusion and seeing what works best for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is definitely something I&#8217;m keen to find out more about. I&#8217;m looking into Infusion Soft at the moment. I&#8217;ve heard both very positive and less positive reviews so far and am looking forward to making my own mind up about it for my company.</p>
<p>I think Mark is right when he says that you have to figure out what you need from a system, and then look at what system best fits your needs. </p>
<p>Thanks to all those who&#8217;ve made suggestions of other options on here. I&#8217;m looking forward to comparing these all with Infusion and seeing what works best for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Easy SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2008/03/31/maybe-crm-is-a-lousy-term/comment-page-1/#comment-398045</link>
		<dc:creator>Easy SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John.

You are so right. Most software applications are trying to sell it all, cater for every different variation of business. This software evolves as clients needs do, but just because one company thinks its a great idea, it does not mean that everyone does.

My concentration of business with Easy Seo and Net Age are both targeted towards small, medium business and they all have the same problem. They are limited with time, staff, skills, budget etc. 

Thus they dont have the time to research how to use this advanced software, so they just leave it and never make use of it. (they also have to teach the staff)

John, I will go and have a look at Infusion as a solution for both myself and my clients.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John.</p>
<p>You are so right. Most software applications are trying to sell it all, cater for every different variation of business. This software evolves as clients needs do, but just because one company thinks its a great idea, it does not mean that everyone does.</p>
<p>My concentration of business with Easy Seo and Net Age are both targeted towards small, medium business and they all have the same problem. They are limited with time, staff, skills, budget etc. </p>
<p>Thus they dont have the time to research how to use this advanced software, so they just leave it and never make use of it. (they also have to teach the staff)</p>
<p>John, I will go and have a look at Infusion as a solution for both myself and my clients.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Donovan</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2008/03/31/maybe-crm-is-a-lousy-term/comment-page-1/#comment-392751</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computer Assisted Selling might be better than CRM.
In the end, it is the salesman or sales rep who has to sell, not the CRM.
He/She needs tools for setting up conversations as interesting as can be, building the relation and then the selling.
Markets are all three things: Transactions, Conversations &amp; Relationships.
Sales should get information from their computer system, not having to enter data into a computer system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computer Assisted Selling might be better than CRM.<br />
In the end, it is the salesman or sales rep who has to sell, not the CRM.<br />
He/She needs tools for setting up conversations as interesting as can be, building the relation and then the selling.<br />
Markets are all three things: Transactions, Conversations &amp; Relationships.<br />
Sales should get information from their computer system, not having to enter data into a computer system.</p>
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		<title>By: David Linke</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2008/03/31/maybe-crm-is-a-lousy-term/comment-page-1/#comment-386586</link>
		<dc:creator>David Linke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have nailed it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have nailed it!</p>
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		<title>By: Webster</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2008/03/31/maybe-crm-is-a-lousy-term/comment-page-1/#comment-376722</link>
		<dc:creator>Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe John is right, but why accept what packaged solutions provide?  Go with an open source solution like http://www.sugarcrm.com/

It&#039;s free and you can also customize whatever you want if you have access to programming resources.  If you can upgrade this open source software, thousands of other small businesses can also benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe John is right, but why accept what packaged solutions provide?  Go with an open source solution like <a href="http://www.sugarcrm.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sugarcrm.com/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s free and you can also customize whatever you want if you have access to programming resources.  If you can upgrade this open source software, thousands of other small businesses can also benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Pangalos Bastarrica</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2008/03/31/maybe-crm-is-a-lousy-term/comment-page-1/#comment-376614</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Pangalos Bastarrica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After analyzing Infusion software to the core, I was pretty impressed with its capabilities and options. It was exactly what I wanted! Or so I thought - after finding out that it does not support international characters (I live in Spain and all my marketing materials are in Spanish), the hefty price tag was not someting that all true small business could afford.

Luckily for me, I found an alternative: Entellium CRM. I believe it to be at least as good as Infusion or even better and the price is much much much more affordable.

I am surprised nobody talks about it much in the CRMosphere. I guess that makes it one of the best kept secrets out there.


NOTE: This is a true testimonial from a real customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After analyzing Infusion software to the core, I was pretty impressed with its capabilities and options. It was exactly what I wanted! Or so I thought &#8211; after finding out that it does not support international characters (I live in Spain and all my marketing materials are in Spanish), the hefty price tag was not someting that all true small business could afford.</p>
<p>Luckily for me, I found an alternative: Entellium CRM. I believe it to be at least as good as Infusion or even better and the price is much much much more affordable.</p>
<p>I am surprised nobody talks about it much in the CRMosphere. I guess that makes it one of the best kept secrets out there.</p>
<p>NOTE: This is a true testimonial from a real customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Analyzed Marketing Solutions - Mark Garland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Analyzed Marketing Solutions - Mark Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John, 

I think you hit the nail on the head so to say when you said that it is hard to define exactly what small business owners want and need in a CRM system.  

There are many CRM systems available but it is really up to the small business to choose a system that is best.  Obviously if they want one that meets their needs exactly they may want to hire someone to design such a system for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, </p>
<p>I think you hit the nail on the head so to say when you said that it is hard to define exactly what small business owners want and need in a CRM system.  </p>
<p>There are many CRM systems available but it is really up to the small business to choose a system that is best.  Obviously if they want one that meets their needs exactly they may want to hire someone to design such a system for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.ducttapemarketing.com/blog/2008/03/31/maybe-crm-is-a-lousy-term/comment-page-1/#comment-376151</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi John -

I guess I might disagree with the premise of the post.  The article assumes that CRM is just for the Sales or Marketing department.  Or that maintaing a customer relationship is only through the sales process.

While automation is important, a big part of the &quot;R&quot; is maintaining all communication through the project or task.  Having a centralized location for &quot;everything&quot; is so much more useful then having something that has &quot;most things&quot;.

For instance, if I search for a contract in our account, and I can&#039;t find it, I KNOW it didn&#039;t exist.  Because if it did it would be there.

I think there might be an argument to be made to split these tasks into two programs (ie. automation for marketing, CRM for everyone else) and have some sort of communication between the two apps. I would disagree with that idea, but that&#039;s what&#039;s great about a market not maintained by a small number of incumbents, the customer gets choose what they want.

My point here is that marketing is only part of what a CRM does for a business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi John -</p>
<p>I guess I might disagree with the premise of the post.  The article assumes that CRM is just for the Sales or Marketing department.  Or that maintaing a customer relationship is only through the sales process.</p>
<p>While automation is important, a big part of the &#8220;R&#8221; is maintaining all communication through the project or task.  Having a centralized location for &#8220;everything&#8221; is so much more useful then having something that has &#8220;most things&#8221;.</p>
<p>For instance, if I search for a contract in our account, and I can&#8217;t find it, I KNOW it didn&#8217;t exist.  Because if it did it would be there.</p>
<p>I think there might be an argument to be made to split these tasks into two programs (ie. automation for marketing, CRM for everyone else) and have some sort of communication between the two apps. I would disagree with that idea, but that&#8217;s what&#8217;s great about a market not maintained by a small number of incumbents, the customer gets choose what they want.</p>
<p>My point here is that marketing is only part of what a CRM does for a business.</p>
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