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Reboot Your Business and Your Life

Marketing podcast with Mitch Joel

I’ve been sensing a change these days. Actually, like most change, it happens in a way that is imperceptible, until you step back and look at something like a six month window. Then you can see it.

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The world of marketing has changed – social, local, mobile – all powered by content, has happened, it’s not a fad – and yet businesses are still acting as though they can treat it as such. But here’s the really scary thing – it’s changing again.

For this week’s episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast I visit with Mitch Joel, CEO of Twist Image and author of Ctrl Alt Delete: Reboot Your Business. Reboot Your Life. Your Future Depends on It who, in dramatic fashion, describes this state of denial that many business owners and marketers are living in as purgatory.

The change we are undergoing right now will dwarf what we’ve seen over the past five years. Every bit of data and information we share and consume is headed towards a single source or, as Joel calls it, a single pipe. We are moving beyond customer service and marketing messages to a era where businesses must be built to interface directly with the customer at every level.

The customer and the direct relationship with the customer is an organization’s greatest asset and greatest risk. An organization’s ability to respond directly and in real time will determine success and failure. Proactively leveraging opportunities in real time is the new landscape.

One of my favorite lines from the book sums this up – “Instead of asking people to like us Facebook – why not trying liking them first.”

In the world we are heading towards marketing and advertising must become more useful. Advertising must become so useful that people would keep your ad on the home screen of their phone. Messages must become so useful that people are willing to pay for them! Information no longer wants to be free, it wants to be worth paying for.

Media must become both active and passive. The move towards socializing every event or show has created an environment of fatigue. There are times when we just want to read something, or, if we want to engage, it’s got to fit the experience. More content isn’t the answer. Better content, relevant content, content that fits what I am doing right now or content that my trusted friends say is the best, is the answer.

It’s time once again to reboot business and reboot how we do business, how we work and what we call an office and a career.

How I Podcast and Why I Think You Should

John Jantsch talks about podcasting

Podcasting is making a comeback thanks to a growing consumer demand for content. If you’re not listening to podcasts, or better yet, producing your own audio content, you better reconsider.

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I’ve been publishing the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast since 2005. I got into podcasting as a way to create content and unlock opportunities to get in front of leading authors and industry experts.

Back then, podcasting was new, iTunes had just burst onto the scene and an army of podcasters embraced this new RSS driven way to syndicate content. But then social media came along and things like Twitter and Facebook made podcasting seem so last decade. (Heck, people even starting suggesting that blogging was dead!)

But then, a funny thing happened on the way to the evolution of all things digital. People started to rediscover podcasting as a tremendous way to package and deliver content in a new and intimate way. All of a sudden, everyone had a podcast listening device in their pocket (otherwise known as a smartphone), and the new iPhone even came with the iTunes Podcast app preloaded. As a result to the easy access, podcast listening again began to surge.

Some people still shy away from the term “podcast” much like they did “blog.” Here’s the deal, just like a blog, forget what you call it, creating audio content is a great way to tap the fact that people want to listen to content on their most personal device – their phone – and why wouldn’t you work your tail off to get invited into that place.

How I podcast

There are dozens of ways to podcast and I am by no means an expert on every aspect of the technology, but I will share what seems to work for me.

Blue Yetti USB Mic - This a high quality microphone with lots of professional type settings and will set you back about $100, but the quality sound is worth it.

Skype – I do all of my interviews over Skype as my guests are from around the globe. I use a SkypeIn 9 didget phone number so my guests can call from a phone if they like but more and more people connect directly via Skype these days.

I also use a Skype add on called Call Recorder so I can record directly in Skype and it also lets me split the tracks so I can edit them independently.

Garage Band – I edit on a Mac and Garage Band does a great job. I level the sound, add music, and edit some things out before saving to iTunes.

Libsyn – I use Libsyn to host and stream my podcast. I pay about $10 a month for this and it keeps my podcast separate from my web hosting.

Blubrry PowerPress - This WordPress plugin creates a player for my blog and handles the RSS technical stuff including passing the podcast to iTunes. I run my podcast on my regular blog and use the category RSS feed to splice those posts off.

Rev.com – Sometimes I will transcribe my podcasts as a way to essentially take one form of content and make another. Rev.com is fast and very affordable.

If you want to learn more about the technical aspects of podcasting, check out Podcast Answer Man – Cliff Ravenscraft.

My personal listening list

2012 became the year that a number of very well-known content producers embraced the podcast format, producing and distributing audio content in a very big way.

The following podcasts have become very popular in iTunes and offer tremendous content for those inclined to consume their content while driving, working out or simply hanging out plugged into a pair of earbuds.

Seth Godin’s Startup School: Recently launched on the Earwolf network, the Startup School podcast features highlights from a workshop Godin conducted with 30 up-and-coming entrepreneurs.

Social Media Marketing Podcast by Michael Stelzner: Social Media Examiner’s Michael Stelzner helps your business navigate the social jungle with success stories and expert interviews from leading social media pros.

The Human Business Way by Chris Brogan: Business with a soul. Improve your impact. Be brave. Tell bigger stories. Discussions and more with today’s top authorities on sales, marketing and much more than just business.

The Work Talk Show: The Work Talk Show is a weekly podcast hosted by DJ Waldow & Nick Westergaard featuring a talk show format along with crazy smart guests who operate outside the lines of what work has traditionally looked like.

This Is Your Life by Michael Hyatt: This Is Your Life with Michael Hyatt is a weekly podcast dedicated to intentional leadership. The goal is to help you live with more passion, work with greater focus and lead with extraordinary influence.

Pat Flynn Smart Passive Income: Reveals all of his online business and blogging strategies, income sources and killer marketing tips and tricks so you can be ahead of the curve with your online business or blog.

Online Marketing Made Easy with Amy Porterfield: “Facebook Marketing All in One for Dummies” co-author and online entrepreneur Amy Porterfield shows you exactly how to monetize your online marketing and blogging efforts using her own tested, ACTIONABLE lead generation strategies

Duct Tape Marketing: And of course, I’m partial to my own podcast full of small-business marketing tips, tactics, resources and interviews with some of today’s most inspiring authors, leaders and thinkers.

Download the iTunes Podcast App or Stitcher app and start filling your head with the sounds of content in the form of podcasts.

The Future of Marketing

Marketing podcast with Brian Solis.

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The more things change, the more they change. That’s my take anyway and it seems like we are in the middle a significant change once again when it comes to marketing.

Search revolutionized the way we find things and altered how companies are chosen.

Blogs and social networks shifted the playing field dramatically once again just a few short years ago.

Today, you can’t open up an RSS reader without bumping into a torrent of content on, well, content.

Marketers get it, they need more content. The problem is, consumers don’t need more content, they need a better experience.

And that’s the future of marketing. Now that we have mastered a new tool set my gut tells me we are preparing for a trip back to the future.

My guest for this week’s episode of the Duct Tape Marketing podcast is Brian Solis, Altimeter Group analyst and author of What’s the Future of Business?: Changing the Way Businesses Create Experiences.

Solis and I discuss the coming fusion of innovation, leadership and engagement.

Our presence in the lives of our customers is approaching a saturation point. The only thing left to invest in is creating better experiences using data, access, culture, sharing and community.

I interviewed Lee Odden for an upcoming episode and he plainly stated – “The best investment you can make in marketing is the quality and experience of your product.”

This is where we are headed and many will continue to play catch up – I’ve been saying this for years now and I believe it’s simply come to pass.

How to Make Better Decisions

Podcast interview with Chip Heath

There’s a running joke in my family. When my girls were growing up I would often shout out to each of them as they were off to the next party or outing – “Make good choices!”

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While I was completely sincere in my words it never failed to draw a big smile from them and their friends. (They’ve given me several gifts over the years immortalizing this phrase – see image above!)

While making good decision in life and in business is a great asset I wonder how many people really know how to do it well.

Most of what we do all day long is make choices. We choose when to get up, when to eat, when to go to bed and how to react to every word, deed and thought.

Of course, business only multiplies the choice making buffet.

We get to decide how to position our business, what color our logo should be and even who to hire. Some decisions are certainly more vital than others, but what tools do we generally use to make them.

If you’re like me, it’s mostly gut, experience and a boat load of emotion. Sometimes this works well and other times it plays right into my blind spots.

For this week’s episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast I chose to interview best selling author Chip Heath. You may recall the Heath Brothers penned Made to Stick and Switch.

This month they are back with a new release Decisive: How to Make Better Choices in Life and Work.

As the title and subtitle imply, they aim to teach us all how to make better decision. The book focuses on a 4 part decision making approach that is a bit of a systematic process that can be applied to most any situation.

The trouble with most of us is we make decisions that tend to validate what we already think and doing so blindly or without recognition can lead to trouble or repeating a history of less than stellar decisions.

In Decisive the Heaths suggest the following path:

  1. Widen your options – never limit choices to one narrow set, get options and suggestions from others.
  2. Reality-test your assumptions – this is a great one. Make small choices and see what the market has to say rather than betting the farm.
  3. Attain distance before deciding – this is the good old “sleep on it” option – so many career and relationship ending emails would remain unsent if more of us did this!
  4. Prepare to be wrong – At first I found this odd advice, but what it allows us to do is move to plan B. So often we get so attached to out decisions we dig deeper holes.

Every decision is choice, whether to embrace love or fear, raise your prices, launch a new product, all choices. Next time you face a decision think about the four points above and by all means decide to read this book!

Getting Clarity One Minute at a Time

Marketing podcast with Dan Martell

Have you ever wanted to seek out and find very specific advice for a really big thing you’re wrestling with? Or maybe for just that little thing that needs a specific experience or skill?

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Dan Martell – founder and CEO of Clarity.fm

If you’re in business I’m guessing you have that thought several times a day. What if there were a storehouse of people with all kinds unique expertise just waiting to hear from you? And what if you could dial up one of those experts and “pick their brain” for a minute or two?

Well the good news is there is such a place and it’s called Clarity.fm.

Clarity was founded by Dan Martell, a Canadian entrepreneur and angel investor. Some long time readers might remember another company Dan started called Flowtown, as I profiled it years ago before he successfully sold that venture.

The idea behind clarity is both simple and brilliant. It borrows from the current shared economy trend that creates markets from available capacity – Think AirBnB, Lyft, RelayRides, Uber and Sidecar.

Clarity is a marketplace for available expertise. People with experience register and create a profile, set an hourly rate and make their expertise available to people who need it.

What makes the marketplace run is experts create the product, those in need buy the product and Clarity brokers the process.

While clarity is a potentially lucrative revenue source for consultants and advisors, I think the challenge it really addresses is the “pick your brain” syndrome that can present a problem for any entrepreneur.

Budding entrepreneurs are hungry for advice that successful entrepreneurs often love to share, and Clarity creates the process that makes it work for both. Many experts on Clarity donate proceeds to charity causes and fees range from $1 minute to, well, Mark Cuban prices per minute.

Seems like a Clarity profile would be a natural way to extend and monetize both a blog and a LinkedIn profile.

I got to visit with Martell while he was speaking at a conference and I present his story and advice for this week’s episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast.

By the way, here’s my Clarity profile.

How to Play More at Work and Why You Must

Marketing podcast with Jonathan Fields

A few weeks ago I started a series of posts I’m calling Recover You. The series is focused on practices and habits that I believe lead to a healthier mind, body and spirit, a healthier business and ultimately a healthier economy. You can catch the entire Recover You series here.

The concept of work just doesn’t seem that fun. And sadly millions upon millions of people go into work, even work of their own creation, and get the life sucked right out of them.

What if work was more like play? Remember when you were a kid and you and your friends and siblings could get lost for entire days in the invention and implementation of play?

Well, certainly it helps if you love what you choose to do for a living, but like so many things in life play is as much an attitude as a state.

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In this week’s episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast I had the chance to visit with Jonathan Fields, creator of The Good Life Project. Jonathan is on a mission to help people find and develop meaningful lives through their work and his weekly show is a shot of pure inspiration. While we didn’t talk specifically about play during our interview, I chose to include it in the context of this post because there is an element of joy Jonathan’s work and his Immersion Program.

I believe every business and every employee can benefit by purposefully adding elements of play to daily routines and organizational process.

Productivity at work isn’t about how much time you spend doing the work, as it is about how well you spend the time you invest. I know that I am always more productive when I feel good and am charged up – two things that play always delivers.

From a practical business standpoint there is much to like about play.

Play is a great way to connect

People are drawn to playfulness. It can be a defining personality trait of a brand or simply a way that you approach the things you need to do. Playful handbooks, emails and policies help people feel good about this thing we call work. Laughter is one of the greatest connectors in the human toolbox and study after study has proven the positive mental and physical health benefit offered by play. Who dictated that business and work was meant to be so darn serious anyway?

Play is super food for creativity

Creativity is the life-blood of any vibrant business and most of the work we end up doing leads to clogged creativity over time. Get the office together once a day and have a white board drawing contest or crank up Pandora and play name that artist and watch how the creativity begins to re-flow.

Play builds teamwork

The basic framework of most games depends upon teammates working together, within a set of rules, to achieve a common objective. Now that sounds like a healthy work environment to me. Take that up a notch and get people outdoors, into nature working together, playing a game and watch how quickly they resolve differences and work together.

Play reduces stress

Work can be downright stressful at times and play provides an outlet to reduce the physical and mental damages caused by stress. Play doesn’t have to mean a full-blown pick up basketball game in the warehouse either. We have two office dogs and I always feel recharged after taking them for a romp around the community garden that sits right outside my office. Dogs can teach us a thing or two about play.

Play doesn’t seem like work

When you are engaged in a game you enter what Psychiatrist and writer Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi describes as a flow state. The state many gamers suggest takes over and allows them play for days on end. Now, I’m not suggesting that you install an X box 360 in every cube, but I do think you can add game like elements to just about every function. Creating sales contests, allowing people to win prizes for scoring points, and designing ways to turn reporting on objectives into games are just a few of the ways that organizations keep work fun.

Play is an attitude that can run through every element of what makes a company what it stands for. Playfulness has its own brand of attraction and every organization could benefit by creating a position responsible for keeping play alive inside and out.

Nobody Talks About Boring Businesses

Marketing podcast with Bernadette Jiwa

Perhaps one of the most primary objectives of marketing is to get people talking about your business. Sure, you actually want them to buy from you, but when there’s buzz, when people think what you’re doing matters, there will be sales.

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To me there is no more important job than building your business in a way that allows you to stand out from everyone else.

But, how do you create something that will get people talking? How do you build a story that people want to share and become a part of? How do you not be boring?

Not being boring doesn’t mean you have to create controversy or fanfare, it means you have to do something in a way that others don’t. It means you have to do something better, faster or with more soul.

There are two parts to beating the boring equation – first you need a value proposition that allows you to both stand out and deliver something that no one else is. And then you need a story to carry your value proposition.

What most of us are really trying to do in this world is build a loyal community and few things build community like a story worth sharing.

The first element, the value proposition, however, is actually the harder part to get right.

So often we want to tell the world about our product or our service. These might be nice things, but the reality is they don’t build community. Community forms around ideas, process, common language or what I’ve come to call “Method.”

In order to truly tap the power of a value proposition you must fully develop your way of doing business, your method for standing out and delivering value.

When you get this part right, the story people tell and build practically creates itself out of the common language of the community that forms around your unique method.

And that’s how to not be boring!

To expand on this notion I visited with Bernadette Jiwa, author of Make Your Idea Matter: Stand out with a better story for this week’s episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast.

Jiwa’s book is a tremendous resource in arena of storybuilding and making your business one that people can’t live without.

7 Obligations of the New Sales Manager

Marketing podcast with Matthew Dixon

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I’ve been spending some time writing about how the job of sales has changed dramatically over the last few years. In recent posts I outlined what I called the Disciplines of the New Sales Professional and followed that up with the Practices of the New Sales Professional.

Well, guess who else has to adapt to the new world order. That’s right, the job of an effective Sales Manager has changed radically as well.

If we are to liken the job of the new Sales Professional to something more like a Sales Guide, as I have, then too the Sales Manager must take on the expression of something much more like a Sales Coach.

If an organization is to have any chance of bringing sales and marketing onto the page where collaboration and engagement impacts the buying process a sales coach mentality must be in place.

It doesn’t matter if you’re the owner or the VP of Sales, if you want to get the most from the model of a sales guide, you’re obligated to build a culture that makes it safe and productive for every member of your sales team to practice marketing to meet sales objectives.

Like any good coach, you need a game plan and it must address your current culture and help steer your business away from traditional sales strategies and tactics. The following seven elements must be considered standard operating practices for the new sales coach.

1) Change the channel

Make an assessment of your current sales channel. How was your sales process, assuming there is one, built? How much input did your sales team have in building the process, determining how compensation is measured, crafting what an ideal lead looks like? If you are going to lead your current sales team into a world of inbound marketing you’ve got tear some things down, build some things up and make sure everyone realizes they are going to experience new freedom, new expectations, new accountability, new responsibility and a totally new way of viewing the function of sales. There’s a very interesting organizational development theory called Appreciative Inquiry (AI) that would make for an appealing approach here.

2) Bridge the gap

As stated at the outset of this post the Sales Coach is the bridge builder charged with closing the gap between the marketing and sales functions. One of the best ways to do this is to get them to understand and talk to each other. Now I know that sounds rather simplistic, but it’s how you do this that will make a difference. Instead of holding quarterly meetings where each side says what they are doing to support the other, break your marketing, sales, support and service teams into small units and compel them to go to work on segments or accounts as self managed teams. Assign team leaders and rotate each member through the role of leader every 60 or 90 days and watch how autonomy creates teamwork. You may, in your role of coach, need to guide them in productive ways, but this is how you create communication and innovation and you just might find that this changes your entire business model.

The Challenger SaleIn this week’s episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast I visit with Matthew Dixon, executive director with CEB’s sales and marketing practice co author of The Challenger Sale: Taking Control of the Customer Conversation. Dixon’s work is a great addition to the conversation about the changing role of the sales professional and the sales manager.

3) Find your method

As the coach you need your team to buy into your system. In order to do this you’ve got to create a sales process or methodology that allows them succeed while differentiating their efforts from the rest of the market. Think of this group as a community. As I’ve said many times, people don’t join directives or training, they join methods, unique points of view and processes surrounded with branding. Create a common language your team can share with each other and customers. Quite often your success model exists in the self-created process of one or two of your best sales people, go find it.

4) Swallow the whistle

The Sales Coach has to teach the system, but they also have to adapt the system to the special needs of each team member. You must create the eight week training program that teaches each sales guide how to listen online, identify ideal prospects, create warm leads, find problems, build a content platform, get to a podium and increase influence and authority in the market, but you’ll also need to build a routine that helps them get better results. A good coach cements the mindset of the organization, protects the culture and teaches critical thinking skills. To do this you must create a systematic way to assess progress based on their unique abilities and provide coaching based on improving their strengths instead of meeting cold call quotas.

5) Hire freaks

If we are to accept that the role of the sales person and the various implications of strategic thinking, problem finding and content creation that goes with it have changed, it can’t be much of a stretch to suggest the make up of the prototypical star sales person has changed as well. Dexterity, empathy, pattern recognition and a whole host of technology wrangling should have organizations opening up what a Sales Guide looks like. In Re-imagine! Tom Peters famously suggested that companies should “hire freaks” and “fire all male salespeople” as a way of highlighting just how stuck in ruts most companies are.

“Freaks keep us from falling into ruts. (If we listen to them.) (We seldom listen to them.) (Which is why most of us—and our organizations—are in ruts. Make that chasms.)” – Tom Peters, Re-Imagine!

So, what does your rut look like when it comes to hiring salespeople?

6) Manage automation

Marketing automation can be downright abusive these days. Companies use it to theoretically get more sales, with less effort, faster. The fact is, most actually use it to close off any chance that a salesperson might do better if left to develop leads that fit a not so presorted and scored purchase path. By the time a lead has made it through most people’s automation funnel they are simply shopping for the best price. Automation must be employed to let a sales person be more productive now that you should be asking them to do more teaching, listening, speaking and writing.

7) Measure strength

The best coaches know how to measure success based on the individual team member. Going fully with the sports metaphor, one player may need to work on offense while another must develop defensive skills. As a coach you can’t measure all on the same path, but you must be a nut about measuring everything. The one only way to develop honest measurement, the kind you can base compensation on, is to instill a culture of transparency. Everyone in the organization must know the critical indicators and what they mean. Every sales person, or self-managed team described above, should know what their contribution costs and returns. The entire team must come to think and act like owners, with full knowledge of profit and loss, in order to build an environment where everyone knows how to win.

Lots of work here to be sure and perhaps maybe a strong evaluation of the skill set required as an owner and certainly as a VP of Sales.